{"id":621,"date":"2008-09-11T10:55:58","date_gmt":"2008-09-11T05:25:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kunjeshwari.com\/sweetblog\/?p=621"},"modified":"2008-09-11T11:32:34","modified_gmt":"2008-09-11T06:02:34","slug":"chapter-8-formation-of-ras","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kunjeshwari.com\/sweetblog\/sweet_books\/how-to-realize-ras\/chapter-8-formation-of-ras\/","title":{"rendered":"Chapter 8 &#8211; Formation of ras"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">The answer to this question is \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; tab-stops: 405.0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: 144.0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">All the divine pastimes of Sri Krishna are eternal. His various ages such as childhood, adolescence, youth \u2013 are also timeless. <!--more-->His behavior in these ages is eternal as well. However the devotees have a tremendous desire to behold these pastimes or to see Him in a particular form. Then He uses this as an opportunity to save the world and He manifests these pastimes. When the work is over, that <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">leel\u00e2<\/em> unmanifests. The <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">leel\u00e2<\/em> continues to exist, but shrouded from material eye. Similarly ras expresses itself in a devotee\u2019s heart and when the <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">vibh\u00e2v<\/em> etc. disappear, ras too conceals itself.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">When material reactants transform into products, the reactant disappears. For example, when sugarcane juice turns into molasses, the juice is no more. Later when it forms sugar, we do not see the jaggery. However transcendental objects are different from material things. They have an inconceivable potency. They get transformed without losing their separate identity. Example \u2013 Sri Krishna is eternally a <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">kishor<\/em>. Yet, His <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">kishor<\/em>-body becomes a child, adolescent and the adolescent-body becomes all the more beautiful as a <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">kishor<\/em>. Every stage is eternal. All the bodies \u2013 child, adolescent, youthful \u2013 are eternal. Similarly, our permanent <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bh\u00e2v (sth\u00e2yi-bh\u00e2v)<\/em> is eternal, yet it transforms into <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. Both \u2013 <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">sth\u00e2yi-bh\u00e2v<\/em> and <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em> continue to exist separately. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">About the formation of <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>, Srimat Jiva Gosw\u00e2mip\u00e2d has written in his Priti-Sandarbha \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">&#8220;The <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bh\u00e2vs<\/em> that are worthy of becoming <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>, become <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>.\u201d <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: 76.85pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"mso-tab-count: 1;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">Let us understand this statement better. Material <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">vibh\u00e2vs<\/em> \u2013 yes, even the <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">vibh\u00e2vs<\/em> pertaining to <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">devat\u00e2s<\/em> are material \u2013 are temporary and are lacking in ingredients of <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. So they do not form <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. Transcendental <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">vibh\u00e2vs<\/em> have all the ingredients to form <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. These ingredients have 3 qualifications \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<ol style=\"margin-top: 0cm;\" type=\"1\">\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">The right <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">swarup<\/em> \u2013<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">The right associate<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">The right recipient<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<ol style=\"margin-top: 0cm;\" type=\"1\">\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo4;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The right <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">swarup<\/em><\/span><\/strong> \u2013 The eternal associates have the right <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">swarup<\/em>, hence they possess <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">sth\u00e2yi-bh\u00e2v<\/em> and are always situated in bliss. They reveal Sri <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Bhagav\u00e2n<\/em> to us and constantly please Him with their <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">sev\u00e2<\/em>. They even criticize the joy of liberation. Such is the <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">sth\u00e2yi-bh\u00e2v<\/em> of the dear associates of Sri Krishna. Although we are worldly beings, by the blessing of Sri Krishna and His devotees, this <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bh\u00e2v<\/em> can arise in our hearts also.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<ol style=\"margin-top: 0cm;\" type=\"1\">\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo4;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The right associate <\/span><\/strong>&#8211; The <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">vibh\u00e2vs<\/em> of material <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em> are also mundane. Hence they are naturally disqualified to arouse <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. On the other hand, the eternal loving confidantes of Sri <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Bhagav\u00e2n<\/em> love Him so much that their <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bh\u00e2v<\/em> spontaneously create <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. Their love is self-manifesting. It also reveals Sri Krishna and everything pertaining to Him. This love appears in the heart of earthly devotees and gives them similar <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bh\u00e2v<\/em>. So we should hear and meditate constantly on those eternal associates, who are in a mood akin to ours. We should be choosy about the association we keep. We should keep the company of only <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">rasik<\/em> and <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">saj\u00e2tiya<\/em> devotees who can inculcate <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em> in us.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: none;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<ol style=\"margin-top: 0cm;\" type=\"1\">\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo4;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The right recipient<\/span><\/strong> \u2013 The devotee (<em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">s\u00e2dhak<\/em>) too should have a desire to obtain <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bhakti<\/em> for Sri <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Bhagav\u00e2n<\/em>. Then only he is qualified to relish <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bhakti-ras.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">Alank\u00e2r-Koustubh has explained these points in detail \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">Sri <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Bhagav\u00e2n\u2019s<\/em> eternal associates and the devotees who follow them relish transcendental <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. Thus we see that two types of people relish <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em> \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ol style=\"margin-top: 0cm;\" type=\"1\">\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">the eternal associates of Sri <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Bhagav\u00e2n<\/em> Who<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>participate in His divine <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Leel\u00e2s<\/em> and<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">the devotees who perform <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">s\u00e2dhan\u00e2<\/em> according those <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">leel\u00e2s<\/em>.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Ras<\/em> forms spontaneously in the eternal associates and they constantly relish <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. On the other hand, the devotees who follow them undergo two types of experiences \u2013 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo3;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small; font-family: Verdana;\">1)<\/span><span style=\"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">They meditate on the eternal associates according to their liking (<em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bh\u00e2v<\/em>) and on their pastimes with Sri <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Bhagav\u00e2n,<\/em> and in this manner <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em> arises in their heart. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; text-align: justify; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo3;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small; font-family: Verdana;\">2)<\/span><span style=\"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">They only hear and glorify the sweet <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Leel\u00e2s<\/em> of Sri <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">Bhagav\u00e2n, <\/em>thus they relish <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. When someone sings or enacts such <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">leel\u00e2s<\/em>, or some great soul speaks Hari-<em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">kath\u00e2<\/em> very sweetly, then the devotees who hear or see this can relish <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. On top of this if all the people involved in these activities are in the same <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bh\u00e2v<\/em> and harbor the same desire, then the devotee can equalize his feelings with the associates depicted in the drama (or Hari-<em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">kath\u00e2<\/em>). This enables him to relish greater <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em>. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Verdana;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">So we can understand that although the eternal associates are present in transcendental realm, and we reside in the material world, we too can relish transcendental <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em> like they. The only difference is that eternal associates have natural <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">bh\u00e2v<\/em>. They do not need any instruction nor do they need to hear any divine discourse. However we live in the material world, so we need the right <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">sansk\u00e2r<\/em> and it is necessary for us to perform <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">s\u00e2dhan\u00e2<\/em>. These will intensify our desire to relish <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em> and our passion will blaze forth. We need all these, because we cannot relish <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em> without a desire for <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras<\/em> and if we are devoid of <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">ras-sansk\u00e2r<\/em>.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\">(to be continued)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When material reactants transform into products, the reactant disappears. For example, when sugarcane juice turns into molasses, the juice is no more. Later when it forms sugar, we do not see the jaggery. 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