Zakir Naik’s spreading Blunder – “Lord Rama ate meat”

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Contributed By: Swami Abayananda Tirtha
Reference : Valmiki Ramayana

Hare Krishna

“If we are looking for God or an opportunity to learn and enrich our lives in every situation, we will find that, but if we are looking for how am I enjoying or suffering, we are subject to endless frustration” – H.H. Radhanath Swami

Did Lord Ram eat meat

Dr Zakir naik and his colleagues at the IRF believe so. Dr. Shuaib Sayyed, Research Manager, Islam and Comparative Religion, (IRF) says, “It is mentioned in Ayodhya Khandam chapter 20, 26 and 94 that when Rama was sent for Banavas he told his mother that he would have to sacrifice his tasty meat dishes. If Rama had to sacrifice his tasty meat dishes, it means that Rama had meat. If Rama can have meat, why can’t the Hindus have meat? … Sita asked Rama to kill the buck (deer)…What will Sita do with a dead pet? The only logical answer is that she wanted to have the meat of the buck. If Rama and Sita can have meat then why can’t the other Hindus have meat?” Let us examine if these allegations have any truth.

Valmiki Ramayana, the original narration of Ramayana, has a total of 537 chapters, and over 24,000 verses, arranged into six kandas, or books. There are only two references to meat, and over a hundred references to vegetarian diet. The Ayodhya Kanda has 119 chapters. Chapter 20 describes Mother Kaushalya’s grievous lamentation on hearing from her son Rama, that He has been banished to the forest. Rama tells her in verse 29, “I shall live in a solitary forest like a sage for fourteen years, avoiding meat and living with roots, fruits and honey”. Can we validly infer from this that Lord Rama ate meat while in Ayodhya, and now He promises to avoid it in the forest? The exact words used are ‘hitva aamishham’. ‘aamisham’ refers to meat and ‘hitva’ refers to ‘disregarding’ or ‘with the exception of’ (Monnier Williams dictionary). Traditionally, in Vedic culture, when a son leaves home to go to distant lands, he reassures his parents, that he would abide by strict moral codes and never deviate from the religious principles. Say a student promises his parents when going to stay in the hostel, “I won’t drink alcohol while in the hostel.” Does this mean that he is drinking it while at home? Obviously not. Similarly it’s in this mood that Lord Rama assures His mother that he wouldn’t stoop low. In Chapter 26 Lord Rama tells Mother Sita of His decision to go to forest and instructs her to stay at Ayodhya. There is no reference to any eating- meat or otherwise-in any verse of this chapter. Moreover in almost all the verses of chapter 94, (which also Dr. Sayyed quotes), Lord Rama glorifies the various fruits, trees, and flowers at the forest of Chitrakuta, with absolutely no reference to any meat- eating whatsoever.

Did Mother Sita ask Lord Rama to kill the deer? In the third book, Aranya kanda(forest trek),chapter 43, Mother Sita spots the golden deer and asks Lord Rama to fetch it. She asks, “Oh, nobleman’s son, that delightful deer is stealing my heart, oh, dextrous one, bring it round, it will be our plaything.” [3-43-10]. In the next eight verses she rejoices at the prospect of taking the deer back to Ayodhya where the animal will delight all the palace residents. She clarifies that if the deer is to be killed at all (Laksman had earlier warned it to be a demon), then they could use the deerskin as a seat. (3-43-19, 20). The forest dwelling sages used kusa grass and deer skin as seats during the earlier ages when flora and fauna was in abundance. Here again there is not even a hint that Lord Rama or Sita wanted to eat the flesh of the golden deer. In the 36th chapter of sundara kanda (Book of Beauty), Hanuman assures Mother Sita that Lord Rama would cross over the ocean and defeat Ravana. He reveals that although Lord Rama is in great sorrow of separation from Mother Sita, he hasn’t fallen down to intoxicants or meat eating. (verse 41)

‘Mamsa’ has another meaning; the flesh of a fruit. In the South Indian temple town of Srirangam, when priests offer mango to Lord Ranganath, they chant the prayer, “iti aamra mamsa khanda samarpayami” (“I offer mango ‘mamsa’ -mango flesh- for the Lord to eat). Thus even if there are occasional references to ‘mamsa’, we should know it refers to a mango.

Now this also signifies that Ramyana existence is accepted finally by Dr Naik who only likes to criticize on other religions without even knowing the basic knowledge of holy books . So Mr Naik you keep your half knowledge with yourselves and don’t spread false information about other religions.

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MISINTERPRETATION OF RAMAYANA”

Also read Zakir Naik rebutted on several points.

8 thoughts on “Zakir Naik’s spreading Blunder – “Lord Rama ate meat”

  1. Radhe Radhe! When he can’t understand Sanskrit, then what’s the need for showing so? 😆 With a clear cut intent to put down another religion, when they’ll read the Ramayana verses, only these things will be sphuran-ed in their hearts! Ramayan is a holy text, like a Purāṇa—which is non-different from Hari who says: ye yathā māḿ prapadyante, tāḿs tathaiva bhajāmy aham. So He fulfilled their desire here—but only for themselves! 😀
  2. Even IF Ram ate meat, it does not mean we jivas can/should imitate that – kartum akartum anyathApi kartum samartha – He can do He can not do and He can even do otherwise. Anybody eating up by the Lord will get one of the 5 types of mukti for sure.
  3. And of course, naitat samAcarej jAtu manasApi hy anisvara – ‘Not even within dreams one should imitate Isvara without being oneself Isvara’.
  4. Radhe Radhe !! Yes, i fully agree with you dada and V’jeet. Dada, you have put forth another very strong , interesting and valid point. This is why our shastra says – “bhagabat pado giya baishnaber thaain, ekante ashroy koro chaitanya gosain”. Only a premi Vaishnav can teach us to learn the real intention of a shastra. Then our hearts will become full of prem, and we will not fall in the pit of ‘ku-tarka’. You should really go thru this site to see how dangerous this fellow is, and how we can combat him.
  5. कान के नीचे खींच के बजाना चाहिये ! राधे राधे !!
  6. tau tatra hatvaa caturaH mahaa mR^igaan | varaaham R^ishyam pR^iSatam mahaa rurum | aadaaya medhyam tvaritam bubhukSitau| vaasaaya kaale yayatur vanaH patim || 2-52-102 these verse from Valmiki Ramayana – the english translation is as below Having hunted there four deer, namely Varaaha, Rishya, Prisata; and Mahaaruru (the four principal species of deer) and taking quickly the portions that were pure, being hungry as they were, Rama and Lakshmana reached a tree to take rest in the evening. doesn’t this prove that he was meat eater, – I have not quoted anything out of context – these verse directly indicate that he ate meat
  7. Here the meaning of medhyam is pure. Here Rama hunted them for taking their skin which is the only pure part of a dead animal, and he came quickly back because he was hungry. Ram previously promised Kausalya ‘hitva aamishham’, I will not take meat, so to have the meaning that Ram ate these animals here is contradictory. So it is not proof that Ram ate meat here.

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